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Like I mentioned in the FF Meme Challenge, I'm playing these Final Fantasy games all backwards. I've done XII, then X, then XIII, and now I've begun FFVIII.

Last night, I got a few more hours into the VIII's second disk (a certain place did a certain thing, and it was awesome), so my spoilery thoughts below!


  • I just defeated NORG, and hot damn, I'm really glad that Squall, Rinoa, and Irvine are all like "WTF just happened?" I mean, apparently Cid is married to Edea?* And also: we just murdered the patron of the Garden, and that's alright? And, uh, SeeD has some sort of secret mission, outside of deploying child soldiers professional mercenaries around the world? God, if only African warlords were so lucky as to say "but my country's children must be trained to defend the world against THE SORCERESS."

  • Meta-plot critique: SeeD has multiple bases in multiple countries, and runs missions for the governing bodies of said countries. Alright, fine, EXCEPT FOR THAT WHOLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST THING.

  • Well, I GUESS we got to see that conflict of interest in action: one of the Gardens has been obliterated (apparently), the Galbadian Garden has almost certainly been occupied, and the Balamb Garden is now A FUCKIN' AIRSHIP that doesn't need to respect your territorial sovereignty, bitch.

  • Cid is captaining an airship. All is right with the world.

  • Seifer** has a dream, and he's following it. I respect that. Too bad I think he looks like a total idiot.

  • Man, I'm crushing on Rinoa, hard. Too bad she comes across as a total idiot.

  • Man, Quistis is crushing on Squall hard. It doesn't help that one of the first things I did in the game, when I had only Squall and Quistis in my party, was to go to Balamb Town and, uh, check into a hotel? whoops. This scene didn't help out much. I was sorta creeped out by the "teacher infatuated with student" thing, until I figured out that Quistis is only a year older than Squall. BUT SRSLY QUISTIS, stop coming onto Squall so obviously! I mean, I know our protagonist is fated to get with Rinoa, but you're not helping your case any! Can't you see he totally resents how you finish his sentences and cling to him? GOSH

  • On that note: my good friend M. recommended that I keep in mind that everyone in my party is a teenager, and that their emotional maturity is similarly stunted. This one piece of advice has immensely bolstered my enjoyment of the game.

  • So when Irvine is cocky and then can't make the shot against Edea... you know what, 17-year-olds don't succeed in the clutch. And when Squall has his doubts and his internal monologue... well, he's a 17-year-old mercenary who only just saw his first real battle, so tough guy persona be damned, he's actually quite insecure. And God, Zell gets on every last one of my nerves... but he's immensely believable as a character, insofar as I know people just like him, who are loud and annoying and also happen to be the pride of their hometown.

  • Yes, yes, the ballroom scene deserves all of the praise it gets.

  • Laguna is the coolest FF character EVAR. I will brook no discussion on this matter.


* Or was; I suspect that some sort of possession is in play, given that the Help-->Information part of the game explicitly discusses that.

** Which I have chosen to pronounce SEE-FER, and not CIPHER.

Laguna!

Date: 2011-07-03 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danchekker.livejournal.com
Okay, so we have now reached the point in the game where I am nervous of talking to you because the order of events is jumbled in my head. NORG: weird Stuff to come: it gets worse before it gets better.

But it does, IMHO, have one of the neatest loose-ends tie ups in FF. The Mcguffin they use to get there is kinda cheap, but it works, which is more than you can say for 7 (Jenova: it's magic) or 10 (he's a dream! But we can make him real! Auron goes to dreamland! what?) or 12 or 13 (we'll take back our destiny by doing exactly what the god-like beings want us to!)

Seifer: I get more sympathetic to him in time. Cid: always awesome. Quistis: not the best at handling her crushes

Laguna: YES. reason I kept playing the game, dude.

Re: Laguna!

Date: 2011-07-03 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nal_rene
LAGUNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got stuck in one of his scenes and that's why I essentially stopped playing. I mean I got so lost and then only to be shoved off a cliff and have my game freeze. Seifer, Laguna, and Selphie/Invine was the only reason I was playing the game... Quistis too. So to suddenly have that happen and forget to save made me frustrated. :(

The whole Quistis/Squall thing has really weirded me out too. I always preferred to think that Seifer was coming on to Quistis and she didn't know how to handle it, but reciprocated only to totaly fail because she can't control a classroom. With that justification of Quistis, who loves her job and sucks at it, unable to both control Seifer and her classroom caused her to reach out to the easiest target. Keeping in mind that she is only one year younger, it makes total sense.

18 year old girls are extremely insecure, so to have Seifer, who puts her down because of her position, crushing on her while pushing her away... yeah I'd go for the quiet hot boy too.

Squal is so emotionally stunted. You find out later why, so I won't spoil it, but it's still annoying.

Re: Laguna!

Date: 2011-07-03 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nal_rene
It gets sad at the end if you take Quistis to the final fight. I watched my friend play the ending twice, once with the party she took and again after pestering her to do it with Quistis.

Date: 2011-07-05 11:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mako_lies
dklfjdjfd I never got all the way through eight (I got to the final boss, though, if that makes up for it). I really liked most of it (except, you know, the Drawing, and the glaring plot holes, and rescuing Rinoa all the time) but I loved the characters. Gotta say, I have a Selphie-esque crush on Laguna. :)